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SECTOR B4
PRECINCT 6 : vote at the new YMCA West entrance on Saratoga and Hornet
Kickapoo Spur to West Benedict.
North Kickapoo to North Kennedy Ave.

And covers the following streets
East to West Streets:
Poplar, W Kirk, W Burns, W Dill, W Ford, W Wallace, W Wood, W Dewey.
North to South Streets:
Jefferson Place, Jefferson Circle, North Chapman Ave., Overland Court, North Pottenger Ave., North Ione Ave.

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Tuesday, July 14, 2009

ICP and the Juggalo a gang or not!

Insane Clown Posse - is a Hip-Hop group that performs hardcore music termed "horrorcore" it is known for it's dark and violent lyrics.

Insane Clown Posse is an underground rap group that got its start in Detroit in the early 1990s. The early days, Joe Bruce ("Violent J") and Joey Ustler("Shaggy 2 Dope") grew up in the nicer suburbs of Detroit, but were underprivileged. They grew up drinking a cheap soda popular in the Michigan area called Faygo. Even now, at concerts, the band often sprays Diet Faygo into the crowd.

ICP fans or followers are called Juggalos and Juggalettes. They don't see themselves as a gang, but as individuals. But by legal definition are considered a gang. Juggalos also identify themselves by the hatchetman logo and are known to carry hatchets and knives as weapons.


Juggalo and Juggalettes
The population of this group is mainly Caucasian.
The Juggalos can be identified by heavy clown make-up (sadistic wicked-type faces and jester style), tattoos, clothing, and specific music possessions.
They wear dark clothing, but do like to also dress in bright clown colors, dye their hair in bright colors, and wear Mohawks. They like to stand out and be noticed.

They tag areas with “ICP”, “Dark Lotus”, etc. They also have their own hand signs.


Juggalos are changing. If you were to meet a juggalo from back in 1995 and compare them to today's juggalos than you would see a totally different mind set.


A recent post from a Juggalo, "Im almost sick of calling myself a juggalo because of people being crazy and stupid my homie was killed by a juggalo because he thought he was a blood because he had all red on and he didn't see juggalo in white on his shirt. he thought he was part of a gang. being a juggalo isn't what it used to be people don't know what it means to be a juggalo anymore."


For more information on the Juggalo go to the http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Juggalo%20



So why the Tagging or graffiti? I still don't know.



The primary difference between gang graffiti and plain old tagger art, is that you can read gang graffiti clearly. When you can read the initials or name it’s usually gang graffiti, because they are doing it to make it clear that is their territory. On the other hand, elaborate designs in which individual letters can’t be discerned are often just marks of vandalism by people with an ego and a spray can. Quote

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Kool From Pott.Ave said...

Im a Juggalo myself , I stay off Ridgewood and N. Pottenger , and we're not a gang , as far as tha vandalism , you'd have to ask the artist , but dont hold all of us accountable . I find it odd that this graffiti gets all the attention , no one seems to mention all the ifg and ncg tags , just us juggalos . The thing that most people don't get is that we're more like an anti-gang , we're against prejudice , victimizing , hard drugs , and beleive in a righteous presence , call it what you will. All I ask is that you ask the youth of the area you claim to care so much about , we as the youth are the future of this community and not involving us will only increase the lack of communication , and the problems in our community . We as the youth experince this neighborhood first hand day to day . Im fifteen and I care about this community as much - if not more - than anybody else . I geuss what Im trying to say is please listen to the neighborhood youth , and dont descriminate against us just because you dont understand us , we love this community just as y'all do , its our home too.

Thanks for your time ,
Tha Juggalo Around Tha Way

anita said...

Kool, In my post I made a couple of references to the feelings of Juggalo's that do not consider themselves as a gang. And that it is due to the actions of other persons that are starting to act like gang members that is giving you as a group a bad rep. You can see why people would get upset, when they wake up in the morning and walk outside and see graffiti on their cars, homes, streets and Churches. You as a community of youth needs to stand up and be heard. I agree with you that today's youth are our future. My advice to you, would be to attend the City meetings, attend the neighborhood watch meetings and let your voice be heard as to what the Youth of the city of Shawnee needs. You write very well, send a letter to the Shawnee News-Star as to the feeling of you and your fellow Juggalo's about the graffiti, not only ifg, ncg, icp, bc, and others that are around town. It is up to each individual as to the path in life that they choose to take. It is up to you and others where they want to go.

YDTD from Pott.Ave said...

I also am a Juggalo, and i see where each point of views come from, most Juggalos around Shawnee have forgotten what being a Lo is all about, if u ask me they just want to be heard or seen, and noticed as a gang, but the funny thing is its never been a gang, it all about family and a relationship with all the juggalos around the world who are discriminated because they dress different or wear face paint. If you would ask me the Shawnee youth is confused, get bored and have nothing better to do but cause trouble, but if there where more communative activities around to attend maybe our youth will show up to be heard.....

Brian said...

Im a Juggalo as well I think the latest generation being 13-20 are pretty stupid the sense that they lose sight of what a Juggalo truly is I may be in this age group but I dont treat it like a gang cause it isnt we are people who live how we want no matter what you say,some argue thats the problem that causes the violence I think your wrong we are not the problem its everyone else because we are the youth we are affected by everyone around us some Juggalos are involved in gangs but its not a juggalo gang some juggalos would rather go along with the others than stand up and say hey this isnt what being a juggalo is about and this is where the problems come also you become a follower that is being a hippocrate as being a juggalo is about being yourself be an individual just cause your a juggalo doesnt mean you cant say no to another juggalo if you see it as wrong

Im a juggalo and proud i wear the hatchetman and love the wicked sh*t
I also love people and life
im not some senseless stupid person who thinks its ok to go out and kill someone
Music is music ICP doest go out and kill music is another world dont lose your own grip of reality
MMFCL

jeff_mitchell91 said...

im a juggalo myself, from fresno ca, juggalos are an official gang here in fresno and the next town over, clovis. one of the reasons i got kicked out of my school is for gang offiliation. 1 thing some people need to make clear is juggahoe from juggalo, juggahoes, r fake, they arent real and they are setting out a horrible name for the real ones...me i paint my face, listin to icp, and chill wit my homies, thats all i do, i commit no crimes at all! but now i am a gang member for doing nothing all because others set out a bad name...a so called "juggalo" who called himself bartneder raped 3 girls and assaulted another, and did that in the name juggalo, a so called juggalo who called himself "joker" was at a mall with marijuana, a meat cleaver and was high on crystal meth, he was planning to murder 3 people, in the name of juggalo, we also were on the front page of the fresno bee, on wether or not we were a gang...WE ARE NOT A GANG, u dont consider the white race, or black race a gang because a couple people of that race did crimes and NEITHER SHOOD WE!
whoop whoop
mmfwcl

brooke said...

MY NAMES BROOKE IM 17 IM FROM TULSA OKLAHOMA AND I AM A JUGGALETTE AND I AM INFURIATED ABOUT THIS WHOLE ORDEAL ABOUT BEING CONSIDERED A GANG SOME OF US JUST REP THE BAND STUFF AND ENJOY THE MUSIC,IT CAN CALM SOME PEOPLES NERVES IF YOUR IN TO "OUR" TYPE STUFF. ITS STUPID THAT THEY WOULD CLASSIFY ALL JUGGALOS AND LETTES AS A GANG JUST BECAUSE SOME STUPID PEOPLE WENT CRAZY IF YOU WANT TO GET TECHNICAL ABOUT IT ITS LIKE A BIG FAMILY ALL THE LO'S AND LETTE'S WATCH OUT FOR ONE ANOTHER AND TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER WHEN IN TIME OF NEED LIKE A FAMILY WOULD. THE SECURITY GUARDS AT MY SCHOOL TAKE AWAY OUR HATCHET GEAR SUCH AS BEANIES AND HATCHET CHARMS I ALMOST GOT MINE TAKEN ONE DAY AND I TALKED MY WAY OUT OF IT BY ASKING THE SECURITY GAURD IF HE WOULD EVER TAKE LITTLE JOHNS CRUNK JUICE AWAY? HE SAID WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH YOUR NECKLACE? I SAID LITTLE JOHN REPRESENTS HIMSELF BY CREATING THINGS THAT PEOPLE WILL BUY AND USE FOR PUBLICATION THAT IS WHAT ICP DOES WITH THEIR HATCHET MEN AND HATCHET GIRL STUFF SO YOU CANT HAVE MY "CRUNK JUICE!". THE SONGS MAY BE VIOLENT BUT TO ME ITS ALL ABOUT THEIR PERSONAL OPINIONS ON LIFE THEIR JUST EXPRESSING THEMSELVES THROUGH MUSIC ITS YOUR CHOICE IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO IT OR NOT. NO ONE SAID HAD TOO AND NO ONE CAN CHANGE AN OPINION OF ANOTHER. MUCH MUCH WICKED CLOWN LOVE TO ALL MY FAMILY WHOOP WHOOP!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

My name is Amanda and im a juggalette. I am not a gang member nor are my friends (other juggalos). We represent peace and looking after eachother. We are a family. We will never die. We will keep strong. "SAY WHAT YOU WILL OF ME. I'LL ALWAYS HAVE JUGGALO FAMILY"

Chris said...

What's up Fam? First off I'm 27 and from Lawton, OK. At first I did not know what to think when I was told about this... But after being told by a few people I did notice I was being watched closely when I was in the OKC and Yukon areas, So what my ride has dark windows and a hatchetman on the back glass, but yeah... I do always seem to get followed by the okc / yukon cops... god forbid I have my hatchetman chain on when I go in a quick stop, seems like they think im gonna rob the place.. I do agree the younger group acts more differently then us older peeps, but thats to be expected.. maybe us older los n lettes should be more... well.. guide them... I dont know the word I'm looking for.. a juggalo role model? jk jk even I know thats a joke, we all are different, if we were not... whats the point... I have lost my flow with where I was going with this... feel free to hit me up at chris at dark-design dot com

Anonymous said...

Im a juggalo and I can say that juggalos are definitly not a gang.
We all wear a common symbol and have hand signs and all that but our main purpose is not crime.

JUGGALO_SIN said...

yo ima juggalo from martinsburg wv an i dont thing of us as a gang and y is all the attention on us they should worry bout all da so called bloods or crips out there an thats where i stop peace

MMFWCL 2 all homies

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